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Version 7 as at 28 May 2009
Genealogy of the Mössner family: Ancestors of Johannes Mössner

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Preface

On this page you will find all data that I know about the ancestors of Johannes Mössner. If you know more or find errors please contact me. Please help to make this collection as complete and correct as possible.

Usually the data have been checked by myself. Exceptions are written in gray and have a reference that starts with [s. These data still need to be checked! Anyway, they are listed in a reference that seems to be reliable, and this is why I have listed the data here already. This may give a clue what to look for.

Please pay attention to the notes and open points. Some of them are given in the list of resources at the end of this page, some within the family tree.

I would like to thank Robin Deems for the professional help and collaboration. This was a great help when doing research into the ancestors of Johannes Mössner. Special thanks go also to Klara Bollinger. She kindly deciphered the very tricky texts.

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Used signs

In the listing below some genealogical symbols are used. There is no symbol for confirmation, and I have used a "c" instead; for comments a "!":

* birth
~ babtism
k confirmation
oo marriage
+ death
[] burial
! comment

Some data can not be determined with the help of church records, because they do not exist. In these cases I have written a ¬ . To get more information it is necessary to check if other resources exist besides church records, for example tax lists, military lists or inheritance lists.

Sources

I have used these primary sources to compile the family tree. The numbers are the numbers of the microfilms that are archived at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints where they can also be borrowed.

  • LDS 1198706 Beresina + 1815, 1817-1849
  • LDS 1198706 Beresina + 1815, 1817-1849, transcription 1940
  • LDS 1658743 Schwenningen volume 1: * 1652-1756
  • LDS 1658745 Schwenningen volume 10: + 1652-1758 oo 1651-1778
  • LDS 1658752 Trossingen volume 1: * 1638-1726, oo 1664-1726, + 1664-1763
  • LDS 1658752 Trossingen volume 2: * oo 1726-1772
  • LDS 1658752 Trossingen volume 3: * 1773-1808
  • LDS 1658753 Trossingen volume 10: oo 1773-1808
  • LDS 1658753 Trossingen volume 13: + 1764-1808
  • LDS 1658754 Trossingen volume 17: confirmation register 1723-1844
  • LDS 1766557 Beresina family book 1834
  • LDS 1766557 Beresina family book 1846-1860
  • LDS 1768263 Beresina family book 1846-1860
  • LDS 1768263 Beresina family book 1861-1880
  • LDS 1768378 Kloestitz oo1842-1880 (fragments)
  • LDS 2236237 Rzgów oo 1811-1813

Other sources are:

Villages

Ancestry

Overview

  • 110 Johannes Mössner * 1806
    • 220 Matthias Mössner * 1773
      • 440 Christian Mössner * 1731
        • 880 Michael Mössner * 1703
          • 1760 Johannes Mössner * 1651
            • 3520 Jacob Mössner * about 1616
              • 7040 Jacob Mössner
              • 7041
            • 3521 Otilia
          • 1761 Anna Glaser 2 * 1664
            • 3522 Samuel Glaser 2
            • 3523 Maria
        • 881 Christina Schweitzer * 1701
          • 1762 Christian Schweitzer * 1670
            • 3524 Hanss Schweitzer * about 1634
            • 3525 Catherina * um 1635
          • 1763 Maria Koch * 1673
            • 3526 Jacob Koch
            • 3527 Maria
      • 441 Agatha Haug * 1733
        • 882 Christian Haug * 1690
          • 1764 Matthias Haug * 1656
            • 3528=5076 Melchior Haug * about 1612
            • Catherina
          • 1765 Brigitta Birk 1 * 1661
            • 3530 Hanns Birk 1
            • 3531 Anna
        • 883 Anna Link * 1691
          • 1766 Caspar Link * 1665
            • 3532 Caspar Link
            • Elisabetha
          • 1767 Maria Costantzer * 1662
            • 3534 Hans Costantzer
            • Anna
    • 221 Christina Schneckenburger * 1774
      • 442 Jacob Schneckenburger * 1745
        • 884 Paulus Schneckenburger * 1719
          • 1768 Johannes Schneckenburger
          • 1769 Catharina Haug * 1689
            • 3538 Hans Jacob Haug * 1648
              • 7076=3528 Melchior Haug * about 1612
              • Catharina
            • 3539 Maria Birk 2 * 1653
              • 7078 Christian Birk 2
              • Barbara
        • 885 Anna Speck * 1704
          • 1770 Christian Speck * 1663
            • 3540 Matthias Speck * about 1612
              • 7080 Christian Speck
              • 7081 Anna Strom 2
            • 3541 Agatha Kempf * about 1634
              • 7082 Thobeus Kempf * about 1590
              • 7083 Catharina Neipp * about 1595
                • 14166 Hans Neipp * about 1570
                • 14167
          • 1771 Agatha Strom 1 * 1661
            • 3542 Jacob Strom 1 * about 1616
            • 3543 Anna Glaser 1 * about 1621
              • 7086 Hans Glaser 1 * about 1590
              • 7087 Maria Barrho * about 1595
      • 443 Ursula Rieger * 1750
        • 886 Jacob Rieger
        • 887 Christina

Barrho

Maria Barrho (7087)
* ¬ about 1595 [S01]
~
k ¬
oo ¬ Hans Glaser 1 (7086) about 1615 [S01]
+ ¬ about 1625 [S01]
[]

Birk 1

Brigitta Birk (1765)
* 1661 Trossingen (between 19 May and 23 June) [1765.1]
~
k ¬
oo Matthias Haug (1764) 9 May 1682 Trossingen [1765.3]
+ 19 November 1728 Trossingen [1765.2]
[]

Hanns Birk 1 (3530)
*
~
k ¬
oo Anna (3531)
+
[]

Birk 2

Maria Birk 2 (3539)
* 1653 [3539.1]
~
k ¬
oo Hans Jacob Haug (3538) (26) October 1675 Trossingen [3539.2]
+
[]

Christian Birk 2 (7078)
* ¬
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Barbara (7079)
+ before 16 October 1678 [7078.1]
[]

Costantzer

Maria Costantzer (1767)
* 16 February 1662 Trossingen [1767.1]
~
k ¬
oo Caspar Link (1766) 12 October 1686 Trossingen [1767.4]
+ 28 December 1716 Trossingen [1767.2]
[] 29 December 1716 Trossingen [1767.3]

The birth record says: "getauft Anna par. Schoppel Hans, Cosander Anna ux. Paten: Katharina, Melcher Haugen ux. Vogt Caspar Kohler, u. Michael Strom." ("baptized Anna, parents Schoppel Hans, Cosander Anna wife. Godparents: Katharina, Melcher Haugen wife, reeve Caspar Kohler, and Michael Strom."). The marriage record says "Maria, Hannß Costantzers, Bürgers allhir" ("Maria, daughter of Hannß Castanzer, burgess here"). Costantzer/Coßander and Schoppel are family names. One could be a vulgo name. The church records need to be checked again to see if there possibly is a marriage record of Hans Schoppel and Anna.

Hans Costantzer (3534)
*
~
k ¬
oo Anna (3535)
+
[]

Glaser 1

Anna Glaser 1 (3543)
* ¬ about 1621 [S01]
~
k ¬
oo Jacob Strom 1 (3542) about 1641 [S01]
+ 22 March 1696 Schwenningen [S01]
[]

Hans Glaser 1 (7086)
* ¬ about 1590 [S01]
~
k ¬
oo ¬ Maria Barrho (7087) about 1615 [S01]
+ ¬ before March 1651 [S01]
[]
! oo2 about 1625 Brigitha Möster [S01]

Glaser 2

Anna Glaser 2 (1761)
* 18 May 1664 [S13] Aldingen [1761.1]
~
k
oo Johannes Mössner (1760) 25 January 1691 Trossingen [1761.4]
+ 20 December 1716 Trossingen [1761.2]
[] 21 December 1716 Trossingen [1761.3]

The church records of Aldingen still need to be read. Anna's surname is hard to read in the church records of Trossingen. But reading those from Aldingen Robin Deems has found that her surname must be Glaser.

Samuel Glaser 2 (3522)
*
~
k
oo Maria [S13]
+ before 1691 [3522.1] 18 February 1674 Aldingen [S13]
[]

Haug

Agatha Haug (441)
* 6 June (10 June ?) 1733 Trossingen [441.1] [441.2]
~
k 1748 Trossingen [441.6]
oo Christian Mössner (440) 8 February 1757 Trossingen [441.5]
+ 12 November 1790 Trossingen. Dropsy. [441.3]
[] 13 November 1790 [441.4]

Christian Haug (882)
* 18 September 1690 Trossingen [882.1]
~
k ¬
oo Anna Link (883) 5 February 1715 Trossingen [882.2]
+ 26 April 1759 Trossingen [882.3]
[] 27 April 1759 Trossingen [882.4]

Matthias Haug (1764)
* 3 March 1656 Trossingen [1764.1]
~
k ¬
oo Brigitta Birk 1 (1765) 9 May 1682 Trossingen [1764.4]
+ 26 January 1717 Trossingen [1764.2]
[] 27 January 1717 Trossingen [1764.3]

Melchior Haug (3528 = 5076)
* about 1612 [3528.1]
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Catherina (3529 = 5077)
+ 23 January 1696 Trossingen [3528.2]
[]

Catharina Haug (1769)
* 19 July 1689 Trossingen [1769.1]
~
k ¬
oo Johannes Schneckenburger (1768) 22 October 1709
Trossingen [1769.4]
+ 9 June 1731 Schura [1769.2]
[] 10 June 1731 Schura [1769.3]

Hans Jacob Haug (3538)
* 1648 Trossingen [3538.1]
~
k ¬
oo Maria Birk 2 (3539) (26) October 1675 Trossingen [3538.2]
+
[]

Melchior Haug (7076 = 3528)
* about 1612 [3528.1]
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Catharina (7077 = 3529)
+ 23 January 1696 Trossingen [3528.2]
[]

Kempf

Agatha Kempf (3541)
* ¬ about 1634 [S01]
~
k ¬
oo Matthias Speck (3540) about 1657 Schwenningen [S01]
+
[]

Thobeus Kempf (7082)
* ¬ about 1590 [S01]
~
k ¬
oo ¬ Catharina Neipp (7083) about 1615 Trossingen [S01]
+ between 1653 and 1664 [S01]
[]

Koch

Maria Koch (1763)
* 8 October 1673 Trossingen [1763.1]
~
k ¬
oo Christian Schweitzer (1762) 1 March 1698 Trossingen [1763.4]
+ 9 June 1730 Trossingen [1763.2]
[] 11 June 1730 Trossingen [1763.3]

Jacob Koch (3526)
*
~
k ¬
oo Maria (3527)
+
[]
! Bricklayer.

Link

Anna Link (883)
* 1 March 1691 Trossingen [883.1]
~
k ¬
oo Christian Haug (882) 5 February 1715 Trossingen [883.2]
+ 13 July 1758 Trossingen [883.3]
[] 15 July 1758 [883.4]

Caspar Link (1766)
* 19 March 1665 Trossingen [1766.1]
~
k ¬
oo Maria Costantzer (1767) 12 October 1686 Trossingen [1766.4]
+ 8 July 1716 Trossingen [1766.2]
[] 10 July 1716 Trossingen [1766.3]
! In the marriage record of his daughter Casper is listed as "from Schura".

Caspar Link (3532)
*
~
k ¬
oo Elisabetha (3533)
+ before 12 October 1686 [3532.1]
[]

Mössner

Johannes Mössner (110).
* 13 October 1806 Effinghausen / Poland [110.1] [110.2] [110.3] [110.4] [110.5] [110.6]
~ 1806 [110.12]
k April 1820 Beresina [110.13] [110.14] [110.15] [110.16]
oo Caroline Schneider (111) 21 November 1825 Beresina [110.8] [110.9] [110.10] [110.11]
+ 19 March 1868 Beresina [110.7]
[]
! Shoemaker.

Matthias Mössner (220)
* 8 February 1773 Trossingen [220.1] [220.2] [220.6] [220.7] [220.8]
~ 8 February 1773 Trossingen [220.4]
k 1787 Trossingen [220.5]
oo Christina Schneckenburger (221) 2 August 1796 Trossingen [220.3] [220.13] [220.14]
+ 31 March 1847 Beresina [220.9] [220.10] [220.11]
[] 3 April 1847 Beresina [220.12]

Christian Mössner (440)
* 6 April 1731 Trossingen [440.1] [440.2]
~
k 1745 Trossingen [440.6]
oo Agatha Haug (441) 8 February 1757 Trossingen [440.5]
+ 11 February 1803 Trossingen, weakening of nature [440.3]
[] 13 February 1803 Trossingen [440.4]
! Bricklayer

Michael Mössner (880)
* 4 April 1703 Trossingen [880.1]
~
k ¬
oo Christina Schweitzer (881) 5 October 1728 Trossingen [880.4]
+ 3 December 1780 Trossingen [880.2]
[] 3 December 1780 Trossingen [880.3]
! Bricklayer

Johannes Mössner (1760)
* (22 September ?) 1651 Trossingen [1760.1]
~
k ¬
oo Anna Glaser 2 (1761) 25 January 1691 Trossingen [1760.4]
+ 19 January 1726 Trossingen [1760.2]
[] 20 January 1726 Trossingen [1760.3]
! Shoemaker. oo1 1680 Catharina [1760.5], * about 1645 [1760.6], daughter of Johannes, + 1682 [1760.7]. oo2 27. June 1682 Trossingen Salome [1760.8], * 6 August 1655 Trossingen [1760.9], daughter of Jacob Schneckenberg oo Elisabeth, + (12) January 1690 Trossingen [1760.10].

Jacob Mössner (3520)
* about 1616 [3520.1] [3520.2]
~
k ¬
oo Otilia (3521), * about 1620 [3521.1], + 5 September 1677 Trossingen [3521.2]
+ 24 February 1688 Trossingen, hitziges Fieber ("hot feaver" = typhus?) [3520.3]
[]
! named "Folgner"

Jacob Mössner (7040)
* ¬
~ ¬
k ¬
oo ¬
+ after 1651? [7040.1]
[]

Neipp

Catharina Neipp (7083)
* ¬ about 1595 Trossingen [S01]
~
k ¬
oo ¬ Thobeus Kempf (7082) about 1615 Trossingen [S01]
+ after 1653 [S01]
[]

Hans Neipp (14166)
* ¬ about 1570 Trossingen [S01]
~
k ¬
oo ¬ about 1610 [S01]
+ before October 1653 [S01]
[]
! Carpenter.

Rieger

Ursula Rieger (443)
* 27 March 1750 Rietheim [S13]
~
k 1764 Rietheim [S13]
oo Jacob Schneckenburger (442) [443.1] 20 November 1770 Rietheim [S13]
+
[]

LDS 2236237 Rzgow oo1811-1813, 667: In 1811 a marriage of Thomas Schneckenburger from Schura in Württemberg is recorded. His parents are Jacob Schneckenburger and "Ursula Rygierow". According to the church records in Trossingen Thomas was born on 9 Mai 1789 in Schura, and there is a note telling that he went "to Poland". Some secondary Records have been mentioning Ursula Rieger. In Trossingen there is no marriage recorded, she must be born in another village and also married there. Who knows more?

Jacob Rieger (443)
*
~
k
oo Christina (887) (who? + 9 April 1797 Rietheim in the age of 76 years 6 months and 5 days) [S13]
+
[]

Schneckenburger

Christina Schneckenburger (221)
* 23 April 1774 Schura [221.1] [221.2] [221.7]
~ 24 April 1774 [221.8]
k 1788 Trossingen [221.9]
oo Matthias Mössner (220) 2 August 1796 Trossingen [221.4] [221.5] [221.6]
+ 15 February 1818 Beresina [221.3]
[]

Jacob Schneckenburger (442)
* 31 January 1745 Schura [442.1] [442.2]
~
k 1759 Trossingen [442.5]
oo Ursula Rieger (443) [442.4] [442.6]
+ 16 October 1817 Beresina [442.3]
[]
!

Paulus Schneckenburger (884)
* 10 January 1719 Schura [884.1] [884.2]
~
k 1733 Trossingen [884.6]
oo Anna Speck (885) 21 May 1743 Trossingen [884.5]
+ 20 November 1792 Schura, weakening of nature [884.3]
[] 23 November 1792 Schura [884.4]

Johannes Schneckenburger (1768)
* [1768.2]
~
k
oo Catharina Haug (1769) 21 January 1709 Trossingen [1768.1]
+
[]

The marriage records lists Hans as the father of Joganens Schneckenburger. The only birth record of Johannes, son of Hans Schneckenburger is on 9 February 1686 in Schura. Marginally there is a note "+ 8 months old". There is a death record on (8) October 1686: "Johannes, Hanns Schneckenburgers Sohn, von Schura, 8 Monate alt." ("Johannes, son of Hanns Schneckenburger, from Shura, 8 months old"). Through 1680 there is no other birth record that could fit. Therefore it is not clear who the parents of Johannes are.

Schweitzer

Christina Schweitzer (881)
* 28 October 1701 Trossingen [881.1]
~
k ¬
oo Michael Mössner (880) 5 October 1728 Trossingen [881.4]
+ 28 May 1763 Trossingen [881.2]
[] 29 May 1763 Trossingen [881.3]

Christian Schweitzer (1762)
* 20 November 1670 Trossingen [1762.1]
~
k ¬
oo Maria Koch (1763) 1 March 1698 Trossingen [1762.3]
+ 27 May 1715 Trossingen [1762.2]
[]
! Wainwright.

Hanss Schweitzer (3524)
* about 1634 Trossingen [3524.1]
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Catherina (3525), * about 1635 Trossingen [3525.1] + 10 February 1702 Trossingen [3525.2].
+ 26 April 1696 Trossingen [3524.2]
[]
! Blacksmith.

Speck

Anna Speck (885)
* 8 June 1704 Schwenningen [885.1] [885.2] [885.3]
~
k ¬
oo Paulus Schneckenburger (884) 21 May 1743 Trossingen [885.6]
+ 9 December 1766 Schura [885.4]
[] 11 December 1766 Trossingen [885.5]
! oo1 6 May 1727 Paulus Kohler, Untervogt (deputy bailiff) of Schura [885.7], * 2 February 1699, son of the weaver Paulus Kohler oo Maria [885.8], + 9 July 1742 Schura [885.9].

Christian Speck (1770)
* 12 January 1663 Schwenningen [1770.1] [1770.2]
~
k ¬
oo Agatha Strom 2 (1771) 26 April 1687 Schwenningen [1770.5]
+ 1 February 1712 Schwenningen [1770.3] [1770.4]
[] 3 February 1712 Schwenningen [1770.6]
! „Den 1.Feb. ward um den Mittag Christian Speck, Kuhhirt, von einer umbehauenen Tanne, in die welche er in währendem Falle gelaufen, jäh und elendiglich erschlagen und darauf den 3. Feb. zur Erde bestattet, Seines Alters 49 Jahr. Gott sei seiner armen Seele gnädig und erwecke auch an jenem großen Tag seinen Leib zur ewigen Freude.“ This record more or less says that the cowherd Christian Speck was stroken to death on the first of February by a fir tree that was cut down. He was burried on the third of February, 49 years old. [1770.4]

Matthias Speck (3540)
* ¬ about 1612 [S01]
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Agatha (3541) Kempf about 1657 Schwenningen [S01]
+ before 26 April 1687 [3540.1] 5 June 1675 Schwenningen [S01]
[]
! oo1 about 1637 Maria Weiler * about 1617 [S01]

Christian Speck (7080)
* ¬
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Anna Strom 2 (7081) [S01]
+ ¬
[] ¬

Strom 1

Agatha Strom 1 (1771)
* 16 August 1661 Schwenningen [1771.1] [1771.2]
~
k ¬
oo Christian Speck (1770) 26 April 1687 Schwenningen [1771.5]
+ 22 October 1751 Schwenningen [1771.3] [1771.4]
[]
! "Agatha Stockin, Witwe eine geb. Strohmin. Den 22.Okt. morgens zw(ischen) 7 und 8 Uhr starb Agatha weyl(and) Christian Stocken sel. Witwe. Eine am 16.Aug. 1661 geborene Strohmin, also über 90 Jahre alt. Den 9......(Monat im Falz) ging sie ins Feld, da sie bei ihrem Alter noch wohl gehen konnte, auch angesichts ihres Gehörs und Gedächtnis kein Mangel litt. Da ihr ... (Weg?) vor dem Acker gen Hans Schlenkers Vollißacker. Hans Schlenker, Weber, mit einem ....Mistwagen entgegen, und als sie ausweichen wollte rechter Hand, kam Schlenkers beide Vorderräder vorbei. Ein Bengel aber der in der Mitte hatte rechts diese überholt, weil sie wegen des Hohlweges nicht weiter nach der Seite gehen konnte, und dann ihr den linken Fuß und Arm erzwängt hatte, als beide ihr gleich....ihre....den mutmaßlichen..........???" This record more or less says that Agatha Stock, a widow of the already dead Christian Stock and née Strohm died on October 22, in the morning between 7 and 8 o'clock. She was born on August 16, 1661 and was more then 90 years old. On the 9th of ... she went on the field, because despite her age she could still walk very well and also her hearing and memory was not deficient. Now it gets not so clear, but it seems that she was in front of the field near the field of Hans Schlenker, who was a weaver. This Hans Schlenker was approaching with a dung wagon and Agatha wanted to evade on the right-hand side. But there was also a boy overtaking, and Agatha could not go further aside because of the narrow pass. Her left foot and arm got jamed. [1771.4]

The death record points to the birth record and vice versa. The birth record gives the family name Strohm. The marrigae record says "Christian Speckh, (Matthiae) Speckhs ... hinderlassener ehelicher Sohn und Agatha, Jacob Strohmen Burgers allhier eheliche Tochter" ("Christian Speckh, son of the already dead (Matthias) Speck and Agatha, daughter of Jacob Strohm, burgess here"). It needs to be checked if in the death record it really says "Stockin". Maybe it should be read as "Speckin"? The handwriting needs to be analysed looking for other examples. Thr family name "Stock" does not really exist in Schwenningen - but also this needs to be checked again.

Jacob Strom 1 (3542)
* ¬ about 1616 [S01]
~ ¬
k ¬
oo Anna (3543) Glaser 1 about 1641 [S01]
+ after 26 April 1687 [3542.1] 24 February 1688 Schwenningen [S01]
[]

Strom 2

Anna Strom 2 (7081)
* ¬
~
k ¬
oo Christian Speck (7080) [S01]
+
[]

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